In this captivating episode, our hosts Mike and Julian delve into the enchanting world of mushrooms alongside their knowledgeable guests, Dr Rob Silver and Joni Kamlet.  Join them as they unravel the remarkable symbiotic relationship mushrooms share with all living things and the potential these fungi hold for our health.

Meet Rob, a veterinarian turned educator, who embarked on a transformative journey that led him to embrace the realms of mushrooms, cannabis, and integrated medicine. Alongside him is Joni, whose personal health struggles and spiritual awakening guided her towards a new path as an integrated vet tech. Together, they share their unique backstories and shed light on the growing allure of alternative medicine.

In a thought-provoking discussion, our guests emphasize the importance of blending traditional treatment with alternative medicine, highlighting the holistic benefits it offers to clients. They emphasize that alternative medicine boasts a robust evidence base, providing a well-rounded option for those seeking comprehensive care.

Rob and Joni offer intriguing insights into how veterinarians develop an interest in alternative medicine and the profound impact it can have on their perception of their profession. Rob delves into the intricacies of his role, revealing the stringent quality control measures required for the creation of the products he helps develop. He also shares intriguing details about a recent study he conducted on mushroom cultivation, providing fascinating insights into this burgeoning field.

They then turn their attention to the controversial topic of cannabis for pets, with Rob, the author of a definitive book on the subject, dispelling common misunderstandings surrounding this unique form of medicine and exploring the potential it holds for transformative therapeutic applications.

In a rapid-fire 60-second CPD session, Rob shares his passion for cooking and how it seamlessly blends with product development, offering a glimpse into his multifaceted expertise.

Wrapping up the episode, Rob and Joni provide invaluable guidance on where veterinarians and pet owners can delve deeper into the evidence base behind mushroom medicine. They invite listeners to head over to, where comprehensive resources and information await.

Guest Profiles and Useful Links

Episode Transcript and CPD Certificate


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